Why/use
This is a list of online news videos or documentaries related to the protests against Thirty Meter Telescope (TMT) construction on the dead volcanic mountain Mauna Kea on Hawai’i island. It covers the news from 2000 to present and also some history on the telescope construction and protest and earlier native hawaiian history with the illegal annexation of Hawai’i by the United States.
- 08-15 https://m.thepaper.cn/kuaibao_detail.jsp?contid=4167502&from=kuaibao 中文
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TMT TMT是什么?
- 地基光学到红外望远镜
- 最清晰最远的视距
- 为了看见最早宇宙、类地行星
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protecters 原住民为什么反对在山上建一个新的望远镜?
- 古代夏威夷人认为,只允许最高级别的酋长和牧师长途跋涉至莫纳克亚山顶。“反对者认为,莫纳克亚山是‘圣山’,在其山顶兴建望远镜是让‘圣山’蒙羞。”
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astronomers 天文学家们为什么想要一个新望远镜?
- 天文学家们的需求=“尽快“
- “这样拖延下去,时间、精力和经费成本都会相应增加。而TMT的兴建意义深远,科学家们都希望能早点用上,以实现相应的科学目标。”中科院上海天文台研究员刘庆会对抗议行为颇感无奈。
- 天文学家们的需求=“尽快“
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astronomers 为什么天文学家们非得在这里不能在别的不神圣的地方?
- 莫纳克亚山覆盖着类似火星表面的红色土壤,几乎找不到任何植被。来自太平洋的反气旋在莫纳克亚山海拔2000米的半山腰生成了一个近似“空气墙”的逆温层,阻隔了低海拔空气、水汽以及尘埃向高海拔的运动,保证了山顶异常优良的视宁度和大气结构。
- 当望远镜类型确定后,就要考虑给它“安家”。就像找房子需要列出一二三项,望远镜的选址不是拍拍脑袋的事。冯麓说:“台址要能帮助望远镜做到三条,一是看得见,二是看得深,三是看得更清晰。越远的天体越暗弱,能否看到这些天体,取决于望远镜及其台址的综合能力。”
- 而对于夜天文的光学红外望远镜,台址的纬度和云量是关键。
- 从纬度上看,天文台台址最明显的差别是南北半球之分。在地球上,我们其实是“歪”着看向银河系中心的。“这个朝向使得在南半球所对应的南天可以看到更多银河系内的天体,尤其是更多的恒星。而在北半球对应的北天,可以看到的银河系内的天体相比南天要少。但由于银河系造成的遮挡相对更少,借助望远镜就可以看到银河系外天体。”冯麓解释道。
- 从云量上看,台址所在区域的天顶云量越少,望远镜的观测条件越好。“台址的晴夜数大致决定了望远镜正常工作一年能实际观测的时间。”刘庆会表示,大气中的水汽含量多会影响望远镜的观测,所以一个优良的光学红外天文台址通常选在干旱、高海拔、少植被的地区。
- “天光背景暗、空气稀薄宁静、水汽少、晴夜数多,是一个优良光学红外望远镜需要满足的条件。”刘庆会总结道,这也是世界上最好的光学望远镜选在莫纳克亚山和阿塔卡玛沙漠的原因。
- 需要注意的是,由于人类活动会造成空气中存在大量灰尘、污染物,以及人为光造成的光污染,光学红外望远镜通常在远离人口密集区域的地方。
- “不过,不能太偏僻,要有一定的基础设施条件,否则建设和运维成本较大。”刘庆会表示。
- “此外,不同类型的望远镜对台址的要求会有差别,比如光学望远镜注重大气条件,射电望远镜则需要避免无线电干扰,还有些波段的观测只能在太空中进行。总而言之,望远镜选址是一件十分复杂的事情。”沈志侠说。
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- 2015-06-10 https://kexue.fm/archives/3354 中文
- timeline protecters 抗议什么时候开始?
- 望远镜抗议已经60年了
- “在1960年代天文学家们第一次来莫纳克亚山建台的时候,我们就开始关心这一问题,”夏威夷活动者Kealoha Pisciotta说,“但直到早些日子,夏威夷居民都被压迫着,并没有听到他们的任何声音。”
- astronomers negotiation 天文学家理解kiai的需求吗?
- 哈佛大学史密森天体物理中心的天文学家John Johnson进一步表示,当他第一次听到抗议的时候,他并没有真正理解夏威夷居民如此不安的原因。“然后,”他说,“我开始去查阅历史。”他被震惊了。“没有被提及到的是,夏威夷本来是个主权国家,有着自己丰富的文化,但被(美国)抢了,而我们如今更是在毁灭它。对天文学家来说这仅仅是过去的事情,与我们无关,但仍让人觉得害怕。”
- timeline protecters 抗议什么时候开始?
- 2020-10-13 https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/265582331 中文
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简中评论
- 这种大号建筑,当成神迹拜拜,一样可以报平安啊,为何反对?
- 做到了2017年考研阅读Text2,带着好奇心来看看
- 西藏建大型光学天文望远镜,条件如何?西藏自治区纬度基本都比夏威夷高,能观测的星空范围少,西藏南边湿度比夏威夷大,北边风沙大
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protecters landback是更大的主题 天文学家和夏威夷活动人士之间的争论,揭示了近年来形成的一个更大的问题。当时,美国的社区团体正在反击私人和政府对本土主权的威胁。
例如,2016年底,北达科他州的激进人士抗议一条穿越古老土地的输油管道,遭到了警方的武力镇压。
“我们不仅要保护我们的圣地,” 当地组织Ginew Collective的部落律师塔拉·霍斯卡(Tara Houska)告诉《地球人》,他指的是莫纳克亚山及其代表的更大的运动,“我们也在努力防止这样的地方被进一步亵渎。”
在抗议中,无论是TMT集团还是更大的天文团体都没有做出让步,但他们也没有直接解决活动人士的担忧。
- 看似是科学家vs文化主义,其实是土地管理权
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- Nov 2018 https://www.nao.cas.cn/news/ky/201811/t20181102_6407946.html 中文
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astronomers 天文学家和技术technologist的需求
- 有意思的国际合作友好而不是太空战
- TMT是我国和美国、加拿大、日本、印度共同参与建设的
- 技术提升
- 将主宰未来数十年天文观测领域的下一代地基巨型光学-红外天文观测设备,其30米口径的集光面积是当前最大光学望远镜的十倍,空间分辨率则比哈勃空间望远镜(HST)提高一个量级,其强大的洞察宇宙的能力必将引发天文学研究的飞跃发展。
- “就是想要知道和观察所有”
- 此后TMT将可尽快开工,建成后为人类在揭示暗物质和暗能量的本质、探测宇宙第一代天体、理解黑洞的形成与生长、描绘系外类地行星特征和生命起源等前沿科学领域做出重大突破性发现。
- 有意思的国际合作友好而不是太空战
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- 22 April 2015 [https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2015.17396](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2015.17396
- maunakea :4200米
- TMT
- type
- ground-based, optical to infrared telescope
- primary mirror made of 492 segments
- funding
- US$1.5-billion project is run by an international consortium involving two California institutions — the University of California and the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena — along with the governments of China, Japan, India and Canada, with support from the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation, a philanthropic organization based in Palo Alto, California.
- type
- timeline
- 1960 hilo tsunami
- local chamber of commerce starts encouraging astronomers to build telescope to boost economy
- 2009
- TMT plan selected mauna kea site
- oct 2014 ground breaking ceremony
- apr 2015 construction began
- Ige:temporary construction moratorium on 7 April 2015
- 23 April meeting of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs
- 1960 hilo tsunami
- protecters
- why protest?
- religious land use: To Native Hawaiians, Mauna Kea represents the place where the earth mother and the sky father met, giving birth to the Hawaiian Islands
- how the protest started
- court and protest against add ‘outrigger’ telescopes to the existing twin domes of the W. M. Keck Observatory. That proposal ultimately failed in 2006, after NASA pulled its funding.
- what the protesters are protesting against (not just telescope and not anti science but more land use for bad ways)
- The Mauna Kea debate reflects larger issues of Hawaiian history, including past abuses such as using one of the islands as a practice bombing range, says Robert McLaren, associate director of the Institute for Astronomy at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. “There’s more to this than just a telescope on Mauna Kea,” he says.
- Maxwell emphasizes that many of the protestors are not anti-science. “It’s just that enough is enough,” he says. “The land is an extension of you, so any destruction is hard inside.”
- why protest?
- how the protest second wave grew
- other protestors are new faces. Many come from immersion schools that teach in the Hawaiian language, which was once almost extinct but is now a source of cultural identity.
- source?
- is Dane Maxwell an example?
- WeAreMaunaKea and AoleTMT (“No TMT”) on social media
- other protestors are new faces. Many come from immersion schools that teach in the Hawaiian language, which was once almost extinct but is now a source of cultural identity.
- astronomers how has TMT accounted for protesters
- reduce the telescope’s visual and cultural impact.
- set up various outreach programmes such as a scholarship fund to train future scientists and engineers from Hawaii
- July 24, 2013 https://www.nature.com/articles/499407a
- protecters
- Kahu: hawaiian shepherd or spiritual leader
- “Having grown up with deep respect for the land, it is really hard to watch excavation happening. They are digging out a really large pit and pouring in a lot of concrete. My concern is that people should show basic respect and reverence to the area. A lot of my time is spent making sure that construction workers stay on site and don’t throw trash around.”
- It’s our responsibility to take care of the mountain and preserve what we can. Otherwise it would be like turning our backs on our ancestors.
- I grew up with my grandfather, who was involved in native Hawaiian politics; my grandmother was a hula teacher. I was sent to a native Hawaiian school. Everything I learned was around the Hawaiian culture, from hula to politics to prayers and other duties our ancestors used to have. My entire life was focused around what I do today.
- was he part of the hawaiian renaissance schooling?
- negotiation what to do about cultural consideration?
- success - remove
- For this project (Haleakala ATST), the first thing we started with was the removal of a historical site, the Reber Circle, where a radio telescope had been. That’s one of the highest points on the mountain, and in Hawaiian culture the highest points have the greatest significance. It was nice to remove that and clean up the mess.
- challenge - very visible and unexpectedly visual trash
- I tried to have them paint it another colour, but it had to be white because of its thermal properties. When the US Air Force built its telescope on Haleakala, it wanted to use materials to reflect the sky. But it reflected the Sun, and you can see it everywhere now.
- success - remove
- negotiation “What do you think astronomers ought to know about native Hawaiian concerns?” “We don’t hate astronomy. It’s just that we want to manage the area better. We have an appreciation for science, and we want the scientists to have the same respect and reverence for the site. I always ask — if Hawaii was still its own independent state, would we have telescopes on Haleakala and Mauna Kea?” quote
- protecters (nationalists) if Hawaii was still its own independent state, would we have telescopes on Haleakala and Mauna Kea? probably in a totally different way but still about the money and the meaning seeking.
- protecters (local livelihood) the locals mainly don’t need it that much as that “innovation” of their rituals and they don’t like the disturbance.
- “What does it mean to have a solar telescope on ‘the house of the Sun’?””There are two hills up there. One of the demigods, called Maui, supposedly stood with one foot on one hill and one foot on the other hill. He reached up and lassoed the Sun and slowed it down in its passage. So the Sun has a lot of significance for Haleakala. If there has to be a telescope there, I guess it should be a solar telescope. A few of the locals support it. A lot of the community just wishes it could be a little shorter, or in another place on Earth.”
- negotiation (futuristically blessing a new technology with an old religion on the same land) he blesses a wind farm
- protecters
- https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/boards-commissions/blnr-board/dawn-n-s-chang/ Department of Land and Natural Resources members gov
- why/use: the board members of the DLNR are concerned with ““serving Hawaii by upholding the responsibilities entrusted to DLNR in safeguarding and nurturing our lands, waters, and culture for future generations.” quote
- they are usually some blood kanaka maoli, and additionally educated/acting on/concerned with the health of the land and the people.
- “Ms. Chang is a trained facilitator who coordinates and manages public meetings, culturally appropriate talk story sessions, crisis management, and government relations. In 2014, on behalf of the U.S. Department of Interior, Ms. Chang facilitated 14 statewide public meetings on federal recognition. […] She is known for her ability to be fair and objective, especially in facilitating hard discussions.”
- these are hard discussions.
- “She is the former principal of Ku‘iwalu, a woman-owned, Native Hawaiian business enterprise, that assisted public and private sector clients since 2001 in engaging with communities, in particular Native Hawaiian communities, to ensure compliance with applicable Federal, state, and local regulations. Ku‘iwalu specializes in resolving culturally sensitive and contentious issues, including the work with developers and native Hawaiian families on native Hawaiian burial issues to the development of a Comprehensive Management Plan for the Science Reserve on Mauna Kea.”
- “She conducted training courses in Cultural Orientation, Native Hawaiian Land Use and Native Hawaiian Rights, Native Hawaiian Burial Laws, and Ka Pa’akai Assessments to government agencies, attorneys, realtors, developers, and community organizations.”
- why/use: the board members of the DLNR are concerned with ““serving Hawaii by upholding the responsibilities entrusted to DLNR in safeguarding and nurturing our lands, waters, and culture for future generations.” quote
- 27 May 2015 https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2015.17639
- gov government admits to protesters that they have not been good at keeping the environment and cultural sites in tack while they build these international gov’s science funded telescopes
- governor Ige laid out sweeping changes to how Mauna Kea will be managed in the future. “We have in many ways failed the mountain,” he said. “We have not done right by a very special place.”
- negotiation removal of older worse telescopes is the trade for TMT to be built
- “the university must decommission as many telescopes as possible, with one to begin this year and at least 25% of all telescopes gone by the time the TMT is ready for operation,” Ige said. The first to go will be the Caltech Submillimeter Observatory, whose closure was announced in 2009; it will start to be dismantled later this year.
- telescopes aren’t just built and managed by one country but they transfer (and perhaps repair but not enough to substitute the new infrastructure?)
- “The submillimetre-wavelength James Clerk Maxwell Telescope is just beginning a new life under the operation of the East Asian Observatory. The 3.8-metre United Kingdom Infrared Telescope was similarly transferred from the UK’s Science and Technology Facilities Council to the University of Hawaii in Manoa last year.”
- timeline the TMT controversy is nothing new to the telescope managers and the gov and the protesters. but the challenge about how to remove old telescopes is not fully fleshed.
- director of the University of Hawaii’s Institute for Astronomy in Manoa, Gunter Hasinger: “We have always made the point that the space on top of the mountain should only be populated by the best telescopes.”
- there is a land leasing system, the lord is the US and specifically Hawaii state government, the middleman is the DLNR, it leases to managers like UH and the army.
- “The University of Hawaii leases more than 45 square kilometres as a science reserve. The current lease is good until the end of 2033, but Ige said that when that is up the university must return more than 40 square kilometres — all the land not needed for astronomy — to the state’s Department of Land and Natural Resources. The university must also agree that the TMT location, which is a few hundred metres below the actual summit, is the last area on the mountain where any telescopes will ever be built.”
- there are other action items apart from telescope removal to overall increase cultural considerations in any activity on mauna kea negotiation
- Visitors to the mountain top will be limited, and be required to receive cultural training. A new cultural council will be created to provide input to the Office of Mauna Kea Management.
- TMT people are trying to work with the govt and the protesters. but how to listen and how to find solutions?
- ““We will work with the framework he has put forth,” said Henry Yang, chair of the TMT International Observatory board, in a statement. “We know we have a lot of work ahead of us. We appreciate that there are still people who are opposed to the project, and we will continue to respectfully listen and work with them to seek solutions.“”
- some astronomers are anti TMT too because they recognize you don’t need to do things in the colonizer way to do astronomy. ethnic astronomy exist for cosmologies and calendars and navigation in maya and polynesia!
- “TMT construction ignited a firestorm of protest among Native Hawaiians and also by many astronomers who pushed to redress what they see as decades of scientists essentially colonizing a sacred space.”
- gov government admits to protesters that they have not been good at keeping the environment and cultural sites in tack while they build these international gov’s science funded telescopes
- OFFSHORE honolulu civil beats podcast
- protecters “get off our mountain”
- emotion i almost cried at hearing this. “our mountain”. the sense of deep love and belonging. i respect that.
- someone activist woman
- protecters aloha “she’s like a grandma. you don’t go into your grandma’s house without telling her. she needs to get ready. you need to have a good reason to wake her up. so you give gift or sing. sing because you love her.”
- this makes a lot of sense to me. you have to treat your grandma nicely. so leaving trash on the mountain and building greedily just to know “more”, more more more, that is not how you treat someone else who also has agency and life.
- emotion “at the ground breaking ceremony we didn’t have a plan then when the truck with the TMT image came by one person went to block the road. then we linked arms and we were all crying.”
- i felt the power at the vision of everyone crying.
- protecters aloha “she’s like a grandma. you don’t go into your grandma’s house without telling her. she needs to get ready. you need to have a good reason to wake her up. so you give gift or sing. sing because you love her.”
- someone astronomer now activist
- aloha “some say we are not “aloha” for protesting. but this is exactly aloha. it’s a discipline and a philosophy.”
- so what is aloha? to them?
- aloha “some say we are not “aloha” for protesting. but this is exactly aloha. it’s a discipline and a philosophy.”
- Pua Case
- protecters “get off our mountain”
- Big Island News clips for mauna kea
- Lee Roy on how TMT construction makes China which is a potential war partner with US see the military training ground of US army
- “the hardest thing to see is not far off in the sky but right before our eyes”
- Ryan Kanaka’ole the new DLNR candidate on whether they will renew the lease for the army to use part of mauna kea as shooting range: “the scope of our understanding of what it means to be a good steward of the land has changed over time” quote land
- Lee Roy on how TMT construction makes China which is a potential war partner with US see the military training ground of US army
- January 14, 2020 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00076-7
- One morning earlier this month, on the rain-soaked slopes of Mauna Kea in Hawaii, Noe Noe Wong-Wilson was settled in for the long haul. Wrapped in a trench coat to keep out the wind and cold, the educator and activist held a meeting amid camp beds and folding chairs inside a giant tarpaulin-sheltered tent. scene
- great scene to put in the script/comic!
- Wong-Wilson is a leader of the Mauna Kea kia’i, a group of Native Hawaiians who have been encamped near the volcano’s base since July. They are preventing construction workers from building an enormous telescope near the summit, on land the kia’i regard as sacred. The planned Thirty Meter Telescope (TMT) would transform astronomy by peering into the Universe with sharper vision than nearly any other. But there are already 13 telescopes atop Mauna Kea, and the kia’i say that adding the TMT would be too much.
- kia’i is one of the many “pro mauna” Or anti TMT groups. protecters
- If project officials cannot work out a way to build the telescope in Hawaii, they intend to move it to an alternative — but slightly less scientifically compelling — site in Spain’s Canary Islands. Whatever the outcome, the debate over the TMT is profoundly transforming how astronomy is done in Hawaii. The island chain — one of the world’s best platforms for stargazing — has become a testing ground for the ethics of conducting research in a place full of injustice towards Indigenous peoples.
- “Gone are the days of the scientific conceit of being separate from the community,” says Jessica Dempsey, deputy director of the East Asian Observatory, which operates a telescope on Mauna Kea. “Astronomers really have to do more contemplation about where they are in the world, and about the social context and impact of their work.” quote
- astronomers really think they are apolitical when the capital money in supporting their work is already within political structures of power and land. astronomers
- How the Mauna Kea stand-off plays out could affect astronomical research in other locations and other fields of science around the world, she says.
- for example in chinese diaspora worlds like china or taiwan or hong kong or malaysia there’s also science being built in “remote” places. allies
- Astronomers confronted this new reality this month, when thousands of them attended a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Honolulu. The conference featured many sessions on Hawaiian culture and astronomy and saw anti- and pro-TMT demonstrations. “It’s an industry that is congruent with our culture as explorers,” said Malia Martin, a Native Hawaiian who supports the TMT, as she waved a Hawaiian flag outside the convention centre.
- what does it mean to be explorers but also stuck on the past way of doing things, when can one change the culture in the modern days, do we need to give up phones and embrace caste system? aloha
- Changing course
- The fight over the TMT has become a symbol of historical inequities in Hawaii, notably the seizure of lands from Native Hawaiians before and after the United States annexed the islands in 1898. “This is a political issue rooted in historical injustice,” says Greg Chun, executive director of Mauna Kea stewardship for the University of Hawaii, which manages the mountaintop land on which the observatories sit. Homes and vehicles across the islands often fly the Hawaiian flag upside down as a symbol of protest against the US government. quote
- i think this is clear about the protesters’ reason. they are fighting against the oppression against them since the annexation and the banning of hawaiian language and the suboptimal state of living many are in. land protecters
- TMT officials have tried to address some of these long-standing issues, in part by establishing educational and workforce-training programmes for local residents. But the project, which is expected to cost its partners in the United States, India, China, Japan and Canada more than US$1.4 billion, has not been able to proceed with construction. Both times it tried — first in 2015, and then again in July 2019 — the kia’i blocked the road to Mauna Kea’s summit.
- training for education and workforce can improve people’s lives. similar to the nuclear power plant in taiwan bringing jobs to the locals. gov
- The 13 existing telescopes atop the mountain face an uncertain future. The University of Hawaii has committed to remove five as a condition of the permit to build the TMT. The three chosen so far are among the oldest telescopes on Mauna Kea.
- maintaining footprint is one solution offered. negotiation
- The future of the rest — which include some of the world’s most scientifically productive observatories, such as the Keck and Canada-France-Hawaii telescopes — is assured only until 2033. Astronomy will end on Mauna Kea after that if the state government does not renew the university’s master lease on the mountaintop, which governs all the telescopes’ operations.
- the land rights behind leasing island by a govt to universities and other govts seem complex. negotiation
- From her spot at the base of the mountain, Wong-Wilson says she is open to the possibility of the lease being renewed. “There is space for discussion about improving the way astronomy remains upon our mountain,” she says. “But attitudes have to change. Astronomers look at us like we’re the bad guys, like we’re intruding on their space. It’s quite the opposite: they’re in our space.”
- it’s nice that noe noe is open to principled negotiation but holds her ground on being respected for the ways people need to be when on their sacred land. negotiation
- Cutting-edge astronomy should continue within the footprint of the existing observatories, says Rosie Alegado, an oceanographer at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. She helps lead a group of Native Hawaiian scientists who this month called for an immediate halt to the TMT project while organizers seek “informed consent” for the telescope to move forward1. They also called for Indigenous people to have more overall input into decisions involving the mountain. “I feel like astronomy on Mauna Kea could represent an example of when science got off course, but we course-corrected and came back stronger than ever,” she says.
- kyra my friend who is local (not hawaiian blood) said it’s reasonable that the indigenous people are suspicious about sharing the decision making. negotiation
- Momentous decision
- How that might happen remains to be seen. If the TMT moves to the Canary Islands, it will take with it money it would otherwise spend to help maintain the infrastructure for astronomy on Mauna Kea, such as the road to the summit. The move could also shift the focus of TMT partners, a few of whom operate some of the existing telescopes, away from Hawaii.
- the economic is the main reason the big island govt started getting telescopes to come in the 1960s? gov
- State and local governments have brokered a detente between TMT officials and the kia’i until the end of February. Representatives of various groups are meeting to try to hammer out some sort of agreement for whether and how the TMT might proceed on Mauna Kea.
- the detente between TMT and kia’i appear to have turned into the MKSOA transition council to pass land management from UH to a new decision making structure that involve more hawaiians negotiation
- But the clock is ticking. The telescope needs funding from the US National Science Foundation to keep moving forward. To get it, the project would need to be ranked highly in the next ‘decadal’ survey of priorities for US astronomy, which scientists are compiling. Results are expected in early 2021. The TMT might not be ranked highly if it can’t show that it has a clear path to construction — which means that the issues with Mauna Kea need to be sorted out, or it needs to move to the Canaries.
- i think this encapsulates the astronomer perspective- they want to quickly build and get more data and know more asap. astronomers
- For Dempsey, the debate has pushed long-simmering disagreements over science and land rights to the fore. “I’m kind of glad in some ways that we’ve been forced into this conversation,” she says. “We didn’t do enough creative things in our local community in Hawaii until we were forced to — by people saying that this is not okay.”
- it’s interesting they say “creative” things in local community as in how to deal with the land rights in tension with the economic benefit of science industry locally. aloha
- One morning earlier this month, on the rain-soaked slopes of Mauna Kea in Hawaii, Noe Noe Wong-Wilson was settled in for the long haul. Wrapped in a trench coat to keep out the wind and cold, the educator and activist held a meeting amid camp beds and folding chairs inside a giant tarpaulin-sheltered tent. scene
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J3ZCzHMMPQ
- kahookahi: “we are a living people with a living culture”
- what does it mean to have a living culture? aloha
- kupuna: “i am pau already. let me be arrested. the young people they have jobs and future. let me do my part as a kanaka maoli.” generations emotion
- the elders being there to support the protest from the start means it’s not the same as the student protests
- rios
- “watching our kupuna get ziptied and carried into vans… the kupuna who fought for kaho’olawe and the past thirty years. it’s not a regular kind of cry.” emotion
- i watch the elders cry and i also cry.
- “largest law enforcement operation coming down on hawaiians short of the US navy and army officers to overthrow our government” land
- Pua Case & the trans person: “the police didn’t know how to deal with kupuna. when they picked up a kupuna another would sit down. but we were running out of kupuna. then about 100 women linking arms and blocking the road… we will be arrested next. i was never more sure of being exactly where i was supposed to be. we were far more powerful than they will never be. all the humanity that were stripped from me from the kupuna’s arrests, we took it back. the police didn’t know how to deal with all of us. that was the end of it that day.” generations emotion
- kerry ilima young:
- the kupuna arrests opened up the earth for hawaiian movement. thousands more hawaiians hungry for hawaiian knowledge. generations
- establishment of the university there: so many hawaiians teaching different knowledge. whoever visits gets to partake. allies
- “Puʻuhonua o Puʻuhuluhulu was established by kiaʻi with the support of the Royal Order of Kamehameha ʻEkahi for the purpose of protecting sacred Maunakea.”
- ceremony 3 times a day on the access road. hula, chants, prayers. accessible to the masses not just the hawaiians in halau or immersion school. to reconnect with practices of our kupuna to facilitate coming into being a hawaiian and expressing through your voice and through your body, your connection to this aina.” protecters generations allies
- the independence of hawaii side strive hawaiian people to be “unified, organized, educated” protecters
- “who can deny our intelligence for this is the path our ancestors have walked on”
- i notice they talk of knowledge, intelligence and respect (wisdom to be relate to) a lot. this is surprising because it is same spirit as science but grounded in care.
- “we are not trying to do anything we haven’t done before, we are just trying to do what we have done again” aloha
- why do it again? no one remember what was bad about the past though?
- “who can deny our intelligence for this is the path our ancestors have walked on”
- kahookahi: “we are a living people with a living culture”
- 05 October 2017 https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2017.22731
- timeline
- Hawaii’s board of land and natural resources granted a fresh construction permit to the Thirty Meter Telescope (TMT) on 28 September 2017, reviving the fortunes of the US$1.4-billion observatory — at least temporarily.
- The board’s decision effectively puts the TMT project back where it was before protestors halted the telescope’s construction in April 2015, just days after it had begun, by blocking the road up Mauna Kea.
- That December, following months of challenges, Hawaii’s supreme court invalidated the telescope’s first construction permit.
- The court ruled that the state land board had not followed appropriate procedures because it had approved the first permit, in 2011, before it held a set of public hearings on the case.
- The board’s latest decision follows a July recommendation to issue the permit from retired judge Riki May Amano, who oversaw more than 40 days of additional hearings earlier this year for the board. Another set of public hearings took place this month, after which the seven-member board voted five to two to issue the permit. “This was one of the most difficult decisions the board has ever made,” said chairperson Suzanne Case.
- that’s a lot of public hearings! it’s cool they are so actively participating in the govt not just rejecting altogether.
- astronomers “We are greatly encouraged,” said TMT board chair Henry Yang in a statement. “In moving forward, we will listen respectfully to the community in order to realize the shared vision of Maunakea as a world center for Hawaiian culture, education and science.”
- what would it mean for a mountain to be place for culture and teaching and science together?
- timeline
- 05 October 2017 https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2017.22731
- timeline
- Hawaii’s board of land and natural resources granted a fresh construction permit to the Thirty Meter Telescope (TMT) on 28 September 2017, reviving the fortunes of the US$1.4-billion observatory — at least temporarily.
- The board’s decision effectively puts the TMT project back where it was before protestors halted the telescope’s construction in April 2015, just days after it had begun, by blocking the road up Mauna Kea.
- That December, following months of challenges, Hawaii’s supreme court invalidated the telescope’s first construction permit.
- The court ruled that the state land board had not followed appropriate procedures because it had approved the first permit, in 2011, before it held a set of public hearings on the case.
- The board’s latest decision follows a July recommendation to issue the permit from retired judge Riki May Amano, who oversaw more than 40 days of additional hearings earlier this year for the board. Another set of public hearings took place this month, after which the seven-member board voted five to two to issue the permit. “This was one of the most difficult decisions the board has ever made,” said chairperson Suzanne Case.
- that’s a lot of public hearings! it’s cool they are so actively participating in the govt not just rejecting altogether.
- timeline